Episode 172. 12 Books of Christmas Day 9: Dare To Be with Charlotte Gambill
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[rebecca_george]: Charlotte, I am so thrilled to have you on the show to today. Thank you for
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[rebecca_george]: joining me.
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[charlotte_gambill]: Of course, thanks for havingav me
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[rebecca_george]: This is so. F. I am so excited to have your new book that you coorate with
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[rebecca_george]: Natalie. Dare to be go able. Are you willing as a part of our twelve books
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[rebecca_george]: of Christmas, So this is going to be really fun. We're getting to record
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[rebecca_george]: this a little bit in advance, so we get to talk Christmas a little bit
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[rebecca_george]: before we jump into the book. And this is like the beginning of our
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[rebecca_george]: friendship, so I love that we get to talk about something as fun as
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[rebecca_george]: Christmas as we get started. And so
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[charlotte_gambill]: when Christmas comes early, so I'm all about this.
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[rebecca_george]: I know it. I know it's going to be so fine. but thank you so much for
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[rebecca_george]: joining me and making time. I'm just so grateful.
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[charlotte_gambill]: No problem at all.
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[rebecca_george]: Is could be fun. Okay. so to get us started. I want to hear what did
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[rebecca_george]: Christmas look like for your family growing
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[rebecca_george]: up'? So fun. Okay? Do you have a favorite Christmas memory?
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[charlotte_gambill]: Well, I come from a household of girls. I have three sisters, so you can
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[charlotte_gambill]: imagine it was very well decorated. The tree was very gorgeous and the
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[charlotte_gambill]: trimmings and everything were well taken care of. That was usually my
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[charlotte_gambill]: department, and it looked like for many years when we got older and kind
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[charlotte_gambill]: of began to have our own families just right in that season, that we
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[charlotte_gambill]: would do Christmas. all together. We would always go down to my parents'
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[charlotte_gambill]: house to have a big lock fire. We'd have a big long table. Everybody
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[charlotte_gambill]: would be around it. My mom would cook for everybody, and then the family
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[charlotte_gambill]: got bigger and then it got bigger and then the kids got larger and the
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[charlotte_gambill]: grandkids got lo. and it all became a little bit too much. But so for a
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[charlotte_gambill]: few years we didn't do that, but last year we actually had a big
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[charlotte_gambill]: Christmas where we all did it again and absolute. This is a lot of work
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[charlotte_gambill]: fun, so lots of great memories at Christmas.
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[charlotte_gambill]: Gosh. I have a lot. We've done some really cool stuff when our kids were
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[charlotte_gambill]: really little and probably about four and maybe eight or seven. We took
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[charlotte_gambill]: them. We surprise them with a trip to Lapland to meet the real Santa
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[charlotte_gambill]: Claus and so
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[rebecca_george]: Okay,
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[charlotte_gambill]: we won't. Yes,
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[rebecca_george]: I don't know what laplane is. Let's back up. Tell us what Lapland is.
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[charlotte_gambill]: The lovelands like Nearither North Pole, It's like you know the place
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[charlotte_gambill]: where all of the stories of Santa Claus are told That he lives out in the
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[charlotte_gambill]: North Pole, And so it's like A. So they basically have built this place
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[charlotte_gambill]: in Lapland, where it is basically a trip to go see Santa Claus. It's like
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[charlotte_gambill]: twenty four hours and you get in the plane really early in the morning,
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[charlotte_gambill]: and then you get taken to this place to put all these layers of clothing
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[charlotte_gambill]: on, and then you get picked up by a sleigh and reindeers that pull the
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[charlotte_gambill]: sleigh, and you go through the woods and all the lanterns are lit, and
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[charlotte_gambill]: then you arrive at this village, you can go and visit Missus Claw at her
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[charlotte_gambill]: house and have tea with her, and you go meet the elves at their house,
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[charlotte_gambill]: and then you get to go through the woods on. The sleigh with your family
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[rebecca_george]: Oh my gosh,
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[charlotte_gambill]: and you knock on at Do, and the door opens and Santa Claus is there and
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[charlotte_gambill]: he knows that the kids are coming and he knows their name, so he says
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[charlotte_gambill]: Welcome Hope and Noah, and that that pipe my is like okay now. I believe
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[charlotte_gambill]: he knows my
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[rebecca_george]: this is the most incredible thing I've ever heard. I have to do this. This
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[charlotte_gambill]: right
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[rebecca_george]: sounds amazing. Okay. Okay? Well, I'm adding that to my lit. Now that's just
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[rebecca_george]: that', incredible. Okay. All right. Well, everybody is now going to go there
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[rebecca_george]: because of this conversation, so we need to get on it. I love that so much.
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[rebecca_george]: Okay, Do you have a favorite food that you love to have on your table at
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[rebecca_george]: Christmas,
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[charlotte_gambill]: well. Any food that I didn't have to cook is my favorite, so
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[rebecca_george]: preach girl,
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[charlotte_gambill]: let's start there,
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[charlotte_gambill]: but I do. We have a few things that are very English,
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[charlotte_gambill]: so we have something called Yorkshire puddings, which are not actually
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[charlotte_gambill]: what you would typically have with the traditional Christmas dinner, But
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[charlotte_gambill]: if
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[charlotte_gambill]: you from York, they go with any traditional meal and they' not sweet,
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[charlotte_gambill]: their savoury, they made out of like flower and oil, and they likes in
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[charlotte_gambill]: the oven like a little pudding, And you have them, and you put your gravy
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[charlotte_gambill]: on them, and you have them with me. So like our kids favorite, and when
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[charlotte_gambill]: we did Christmas in Americacause, we spend half our life in America, half
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[charlotte_gambill]: life in England. The big thing for the kids was, but we can't go to
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[charlotte_gambill]: America if there's no Yorkshire. Pudins
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[charlotte_gambill]: had to learn how to make them from scratch, Which sounds easy. but it
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[charlotte_gambill]: actually all about timing. And saw the first Christmas in America, where
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[charlotte_gambill]: we tried it. We set the fire alarm off, the fire brigade, came out on
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[charlotte_gambill]: Christmas Day, because
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[rebecca_george]: Oh my gosh.
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[charlotte_gambill]: there, so smoke. Yeah, it was a Christmas to remember,
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[rebecca_george]: Wow. Okay. Here's what I need you to know. I knew what that was because of
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[rebecca_george]: the great British ba offff, which is my favorite show of all times,
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[charlotte_gambill]: Y.
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[rebecca_george]: because they make some of those types of probably not Yorkshire putd. I
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[rebecca_george]: because they make some of those types of probably not Yorkshire putd. I
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[rebecca_george]: can't say it like you can say it so beautifully. I can't say that word. but
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[rebecca_george]: can't say it like you can say it so beautifully. I can't say that word. but
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[rebecca_george]: it is so beautiful when you say it. Oh, it's gorgeous. I will love it so
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[rebecca_george]: it is so beautiful when you say it. Oh, it's gorgeous. I will love it so
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[rebecca_george]: much. Um, yeah, they've made some stuff like that over the years, and my
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[rebecca_george]: much. Um, yeah, they've made some stuff like that over the years, and my
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[rebecca_george]: husband and I like everybody else in America, Bnged it during twenty twenty.
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[rebecca_george]: husband and I like everybody else in America, Bnged it during twenty twenty.
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[rebecca_george]: And so when you said putting, I was like, Oh, she mean something safevy. I'm
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[rebecca_george]: And so when you said putting, I was like, Oh, she mean something safevy. I'm
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[rebecca_george]: going to ask you said. so, I love that that's so fun.
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[rebecca_george]: going to ask you said. so, I love that that's so fun.
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[rebecca_george]: So fun. Well, I love that I love hearing about people's Christmases and
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[rebecca_george]: their traditions and what they do with their family. That means so much to
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[rebecca_george]: me and I feel so honored that I have such sweet memories with my family
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[rebecca_george]: throughout my life during Christmas, so I love hearing other people's
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[rebecca_george]: stories, and um, I am. I'm so excited though to be with you today to talk
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[rebecca_george]: about your new devotion. Like we mention, I'm going to say the title of it
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[rebecca_george]: again. It's called dear to be God is able. Are you willing and I'm excited
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[rebecca_george]: to dive into this? So before we do, I want to hear you wrote this with your
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[rebecca_george]: best friend,
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[rebecca_george]: right? So like tell me what that experience was like. This is the first book
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[rebecca_george]: you've done together. right,
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[charlotte_gambill]: yeah, yeah. I mean we' done a smaller, kind of like a devotional type
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[charlotte_gambill]: thing, but our book
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[rebecca_george]: Okay?
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[charlotte_gambill]: book, and so I'll be really honest, because she wouldn't want it any
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[charlotte_gambill]: other way. It came down to the writing. You know what we're going to
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[charlotte_gambill]: write. How we going to write it. And it became very apparent there was
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[charlotte_gambill]: one of us going to be doing the book of the writing. That would be me.
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[charlotte_gambill]: she's like, But it sounds so much better when you write it than it does
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[charlotte_gambill]: when I write it. I was like, Yeah, I know all that compliment's leading
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[charlotte_gambill]: to, so so we
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[charlotte_gambill]: talked about each chapter about the story pulled, our memories, made sure
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[charlotte_gambill]: that what I was thinking was what she was thinking, and then once you get
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[charlotte_gambill]: past the introduction, the narrative changes so that the story' being
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[charlotte_gambill]: told and it's in my voice that the story is told, and then at the end
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[charlotte_gambill]: nap, like, adds an explanation point on the end of something she wanted
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[charlotte_gambill]: to say to add to the end of that, so actually it worked out that we just
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[charlotte_gambill]: both played. To our strengths that that we were like Okay, let's come
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[charlotte_gambill]: together and then let's divide and conquer, And it was actually a really
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[charlotte_gambill]: a fun experience because it brought back so many amazing memories of the
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[charlotte_gambill]: journey that we've been on over seventeen years now. Friendship and just
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[charlotte_gambill]: realizing, Wow, in that time there's there been a lot of things that God
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[charlotte_gambill]: has led us to as a F. As friends, so it was a lot of a we laugh cried. we
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[charlotte_gambill]: were like, Oh my gosh, I forgot about that half the time, and and as God
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[charlotte_gambill]: brought things back to mind so yes, but it was me at the keyboard way
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[charlotte_gambill]: more than her. Just so you know
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[rebecca_george]: I love that.
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[charlotte_gambill]: that's my version, Do it?
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[charlotte_gambill]: that's my version, Do it?
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[rebecca_george]: Well, just from hearing conversations with both of you, I can see how Naly
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[rebecca_george]: would if she were here here. I feel like she would say Yeah, Youre right.
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[rebecca_george]: I love. I love that and okay, so you know a lot of this message is kind of
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[rebecca_george]: pointing us back to saying yes to God's promptings. And why that matters so
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[rebecca_george]: much Right. and so
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[rebecca_george]: you know, as you look at women right now and what you or how you felt. God
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[rebecca_george]: really
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[rebecca_george]: leading you to encourage us.
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[rebecca_george]: Why did this message may matter so much to you guys right now?
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[charlotte_gambill]: I think, not necessarily right now, but always this is an issue for
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[charlotte_gambill]: women. I think it is increasingly so because of the world we live in, but
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[charlotte_gambill]: I think women, um, don't know who they are any more. I think our identity
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[charlotte_gambill]: has become so shaped by the shape of our body or our facial looks, Um,
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[charlotte_gambill]: the things that we are known for in what we do. how well we raise our
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[charlotte_gambill]: kids or keep our home together, or how perfect weres our life to be. I
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[charlotte_gambill]: think there's always been a temptation for women to find their identity
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[charlotte_gambill]: in so many things that are actually a lot easier to grasp a hold of than
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[charlotte_gambill]: maybe the Aer, men. You know, man, it's like you know they don't seem to
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[charlotte_gambill]: have the same problems with their body or that being part of their
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[charlotte_gambill]: identity. Some do, but the majority of women are affected by it in some
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[charlotte_gambill]: way because I think we just like to look. compare and were' the ones that
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[charlotte_gambill]: are always doing that. And
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm. Mhm.
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[charlotte_gambill]: so I think for me the dare to be book is saying. Actually, what if you
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[charlotte_gambill]: daared to be who gances as you are, And what if
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[charlotte_gambill]: you dre to actually figure out what that is, and that's going to mean the
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[charlotte_gambill]: some stuff you have to let go off? And that's Adare and stuff you have to
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[charlotte_gambill]: step into, And that's Adare And I think one of the biggest dares for
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[charlotte_gambill]: women is finding their voice and finding a way to feel comfortable in the
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[charlotte_gambill]: skin that God has put them in. And so we unp
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[rebecca_george]: mm,
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[charlotte_gambill]: as friends, because that's very different than me,
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[charlotte_gambill]: and so to be
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[charlotte_gambill]: okay with not being who was, and vice versa and finding that, and the
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[charlotte_gambill]: tension of that and the comparison that could be of that,
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm.
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[charlotte_gambill]: and daring to not feel that you are less then because somebody may appear
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[charlotte_gambill]: in the world's eyes more than you. And so I
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[rebecca_george]: mm,
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[charlotte_gambill]: think all of that is the journey for women everywhere that they got a Da
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[charlotte_gambill]: to go on that journey.
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, yeah. one of the things that I've been talking to our community about
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[rebecca_george]: some is just this idea of. you know, we look around and we see people's
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[rebecca_george]: highlight reals around everything from marriage to motherhood to our body
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[rebecca_george]: image to all those things, And there's sort of this, Um,
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[rebecca_george]: this like fomo. That happens right like we think. Oh, this person's getting
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[rebecca_george]: in my life when you guys were talking about how you met, and um, and sort of
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[charlotte_gambill]: fertility. We we just became. We became committed to each other,
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[charlotte_gambill]: and I think that's the same thing. Right in a marriage, You, you commit
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[charlotte_gambill]: to that person. You don't commit you. If they have a successful career
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[charlotte_gambill]: and a job and provide for you, you commit to them. So if the lose the
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[charlotte_gambill]: job, you' still committed to them. Send me kids. You't commit to your
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[charlotte_gambill]: kids because they have to get a grades A stars. And so I'm commit to you
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[charlotte_gambill]: now, because you doing what I want you do as my child, And I think
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[charlotte_gambill]: friendship's the same. And so I think it's a spiritual thing. I think
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[charlotte_gambill]: it's um, you know, just like Jonathan, and had no reason. no good reason
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[charlotte_gambill]: to be David's friend, because David was the threat to his future, But
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[charlotte_gambill]: it's set in the scriptures that when Gnathan heard David speaking,
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[charlotte_gambill]: something inside him leapt. He just knew that this was some he was
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[charlotte_gambill]: connected to. It was a spirit to spirit thing, which means no matter what
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[charlotte_gambill]: happens as a connection here that the enemy is not going to mess with,
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[charlotte_gambill]: and I think everybody in your life is that. But the ones that are that
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[charlotte_gambill]: you just know that you know are there's an assignment on my life to be
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[charlotte_gambill]: your friend in good and bad, and I'll just be here and you can pick up
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[charlotte_gambill]: the phone. So I have a friend that's coming over right after I finished
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[charlotte_gambill]: talking to you, and we've been Fs for thirty seven years,
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[charlotte_gambill]: thirty seven years of friendship, and been through all the ups and downs
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[charlotte_gambill]: And she wrote me a note Other daycause. We were going through something
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[charlotte_gambill]: jobs on different levels, so our lives was crossing on a work level which
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[charlotte_gambill]: he normally doesn't and she just rotee and she said, Just remember the
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[charlotte_gambill]: one thing that is not up for compromise in any of this is our friendship,
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[charlotte_gambill]: and if we have to
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[charlotte_gambill]: resign at Gos, Father that we will resign our jobs for that And so that's
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[charlotte_gambill]: where you know the commitments to you and to your children and to your
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[charlotte_gambill]: family, and it's not to anything else. I think that is where a lot people
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[charlotte_gambill]: get it confused.
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah, that's so good and
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[rebecca_george]: it almost makes me think of the phrase of like being for someone like I'm
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[rebecca_george]: for Daniel. It
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[charlotte_gambill]: Mhm,
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[rebecca_george]: doesn't matter. I'm not for what Danielle can do for me. I'm not for
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[rebecca_george]: the things that Danielle and I share. Although that's beautiful and fun and
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[rebecca_george]: delights my heart, and I love sharing things. I'm for her. I'm for her,
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[rebecca_george]: I'm I'm for her marriage. I'm for her ministry. I'm and even you know months
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[rebecca_george]: can separate. sometimes a conversation. Sometimes that's hard to when
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[rebecca_george]: seasons change and life looks different and coffee isn't as easy to come by,
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[rebecca_george]: Or you know your actual presence isn't as easy to come
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[charlotte_gambill]: Right,
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[rebecca_george]: by the friends that you are able to just seven months later. pick up the
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[rebecca_george]: phone and call and it's like wait. Let's just like pick up right where we
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[rebecca_george]: left off. You know what I mean,
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[charlotte_gambill]: and your healthy friendship, a
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[rebecca_george]: Yes,
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[charlotte_gambill]: friend, a friend, demand on your time that is disappointed when you don't
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[charlotte_gambill]: do coffee. What they're saying is unless you fulfil my criteria of what
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[charlotte_gambill]: friend should look like, we can't be friends. Well that you know that
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[charlotte_gambill]: works for some people, but you know you're never going to have a life
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[charlotte_gambill]: that has anything beyond that then, because if you want to have a friend
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[charlotte_gambill]: that isn't living her best life, she might not always be there to have
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[charlotte_gambill]: coffee with you. and you have to celebrate that in her. and I think you
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[charlotte_gambill]: know, just to pick up on what you said, everything that's the key when
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[charlotte_gambill]: you're far. some one, think about that. If you' for some one, it means
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[charlotte_gambill]: that even when you disagree, it's going to be really easy to forgive,
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[charlotte_gambill]: Because
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[rebecca_george]: H,
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[charlotte_gambill]: forgive starts with the word far, and you have to be for some one to
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[charlotte_gambill]: forongive someone. If you agate when you can't forgive someone one, so
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[charlotte_gambill]: you have to be father them in your heart, Far, them in your mind, follow
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[charlotte_gambill]: them in your attitude, and then you can give them forgiveness's. It's a
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[charlotte_gambill]: forward motion and friendships that fall out a lot and make me and you
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[charlotte_gambill]: against each other, And now we have months to fix that have lost the the
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[charlotte_gambill]: power of the far. But if you, for some one, it's easy to forgive the
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[charlotte_gambill]: person you far right because your father, and so you want forgiveness to
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[charlotte_gambill]: flow, because you want to befa them. And so I think that's an E.
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[charlotte_gambill]: friendship too,
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[rebecca_george]: wow, wow, that's soful. I, so
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[rebecca_george]: man, that's something I' going to sleep on so good. Okay, So there was one
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[rebecca_george]: other chapter that I was really encouraged by and it was the oneing I pulled
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[rebecca_george]: ▁e. I really say the resistance to Rush created the permission to pause. I
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[rebecca_george]: think a lot of us struggle to pause in the the current. You know time that
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[rebecca_george]: we're in.
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[rebecca_george]: I wonder why was it important to you guys to reflect on the importance of
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[rebecca_george]: this. How do we do it? better?
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[charlotte_gambill]: because I don't think any great decision is made a hundred miles an hour.
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[charlotte_gambill]: You know, like
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[rebecca_george]: Yep,
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[charlotte_gambill]: if you, if you are full on full on in all areas of your life, and then
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[charlotte_gambill]: suddenly you need to pivot or turn, you're going to have a massive
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[charlotte_gambill]: collision unless you slow down, And so I think there's times in our life
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[charlotte_gambill]: where unless we slow down, we' gonna cause unnecessary conage on the road
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[charlotte_gambill]: ahead. And so you have do in those moments where everybody is pushing for
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[charlotte_gambill]: you to keep going, Realze. No, my greatest gift for you right now is that
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[charlotte_gambill]: I'm going to slow this down and I'm going to pause a moment so that when
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[charlotte_gambill]: we do pivot, the pivot is one that we can navigate well. it's kind of
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[charlotte_gambill]: like in England, nobody is in America, but in England, most people drive
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[charlotte_gambill]: a stickshift right. And so if you're in fifth gear, you know Fifth
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[charlotte_gambill]: yearear is no good for turning a corner.
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[rebecca_george]: hm,
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[charlotte_gambill]: You have to go all the way down the gears so that you get the right
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[charlotte_gambill]: biting point, the right amount of acceleration and the right amount of
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[charlotte_gambill]: clutch. You get the right balance so that you can manoeuver. And I think
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[charlotte_gambill]: a lot of people are trying to make decisions in fifth gear and wondering
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[charlotte_gambill]: why it becomes a disaster And you have to come down the gears. You have
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[charlotte_gambill]: to come down the energy of the moment you're in out of the frustration of
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[charlotte_gambill]: the moment you're in. you know, Elijah under a tree, frustrated running
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[charlotte_gambill]: just outranch chariot. exhausted making the biggest decision. Worse
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[charlotte_gambill]: decision. God kill me like no, no, no, So what does God do go? Okay, Let
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[charlotte_gambill]: back you up. Sends an angel. Or does the angel say, sleep and eat Wakes
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[charlotte_gambill]: up. What does it happen to do again? eat and sleep like. Lets. Let's get
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[charlotte_gambill]: to a speed where all of that is not shadowing the decision that you are
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[charlotte_gambill]: about to make. And so I think it's crucial. I think you know and people
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[charlotte_gambill]: make crazy decisions in the heat of the moment. saying well, you know, I
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[charlotte_gambill]: just felt it's like no feelings should never drive decisions right
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, yeah, yeah,
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[charlotte_gambill]: like they can help you know. Educate you of. I feel good about this. I
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[charlotte_gambill]: don't feel good about that, but they should never be the main reason why
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[charlotte_gambill]: you made that decision.
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[rebecca_george]: my feelings are real, but my feelings aren't reliable. That's what I say all
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[rebecca_george]: the time. I also never make decisions when I'm tired, hungry or frustrated.
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[rebecca_george]: That's my rule.
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[rebecca_george]: Just the other day. Go ahead,
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[charlotte_gambill]: never go to the Gs. Su market when you are hungry, because you going to
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[rebecca_george]: am
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[charlotte_gambill]: buy the,
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[rebecca_george]: everything that's not nailed down exactly. I just the other day was
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[rebecca_george]: frustrated about something and was kind of walking through a conversation
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[rebecca_george]: with my husband of maybe a potential decision to make in the future and I, I
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[rebecca_george]: just finally stopped and I said to him I was like I'm frustrated. I also
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[rebecca_george]: haven't had lunch,
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[rebecca_george]: so I, we don't need to talk about this right now, so yeah, that's such a
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[rebecca_george]: good reminder for all of us right now, especially during the holiday season
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[rebecca_george]: when this is going to be coming out because man or our lives ever as crazy
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[rebecca_george]: as they are. Uh, during December, so this will be a good reminder for
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[rebecca_george]: everybody. While I am so thrilled about your new devotional with Nata Ly,
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[rebecca_george]: called Dare to Be God is able. Are you willing and the book's going to be
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[rebecca_george]: out in the world by the time everybody, um, listens to this episode, So want
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[rebecca_george]: to make sure everybody goes and grabs it? We're also going to be giving away
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[rebecca_george]: a copy to one of our listeners, and throughout our series of the twelve
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[rebecca_george]: books of Christmas, And I'm grateful for that, but um, for this part of the
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[rebecca_george]: conversation, Um, Charlotte, I'm just so grateful to have you. I'm excited
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[rebecca_george]: to do a quick little bonus, um portion with you in just a second. But for
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[rebecca_george]: this part of the um of the podcast that will erir on the normal pod cast
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[rebecca_george]: platforms, Thank you so much for being with me today.
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[charlotte_gambill]: of course
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[rebecca_george]: So fun. Okay, I'll do a quick pause and then we knock out these last few
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[rebecca_george]: cool,
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[rebecca_george]: Charlotte. I am so grateful to be with you today. I loved our conversation
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[rebecca_george]: about Dare to be God is able. Are you willing that you co wrote with Natalie
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[rebecca_george]: Grant and I am so excited to get to know you a little better in a little
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[rebecca_george]: bonus round? So are you ready
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[charlotte_gambill]: I am ready.
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[rebecca_george]: Okay? first question is, what do you think is one of the best pieces of
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[rebecca_george]: advice that you've ever been given?
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[rebecca_george]: M.
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[charlotte_gambill]: always. you'll never go wrong with kindness.
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah, that's a good one. I love that. Okay, What is a book that you have
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[rebecca_george]: read lately that you want people to know about?
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[charlotte_gambill]: Okay, this is where now going to find me out Because I do not read books
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[charlotte_gambill]: I
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[rebecca_george]: Okay?
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[charlotte_gambill]: write. I do not read books and I think it's just kind oflight work to me,
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[charlotte_gambill]: So my kids have been on a mission to get me to start to read something
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[charlotte_gambill]: that is not the Bible and not me writing a book. So on vacation this
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[charlotte_gambill]: year, I took up the challenge and I actually read four books, And my kids
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[rebecca_george]: Oh,
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[charlotte_gambill]: are so proud of me to like Mu. because my kids read books all the time.
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[charlotte_gambill]: My kids read at least two books a week, And they
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[rebecca_george]: that's so cool.
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[charlotte_gambill]: not devices. They are reading books. They walk upstairs with a book in
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[charlotte_gambill]: their hands.
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[charlotte_gambill]: My the same, So when me go back, all they want to do is read and go to
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[charlotte_gambill]: bookstores, and Im med one out. So they were remissing this vacation to
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[charlotte_gambill]: make me join the book reading club. So I'm on the journey of finding
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[charlotte_gambill]: books that are good. So if anyone knows any good thrillers because I kind
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[charlotte_gambill]: of feel like that's my genre like the stries. that, like you know who
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[charlotte_gambill]: done it kind of thing, then then let me know because I have no clue.
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[rebecca_george]: Okay, Okay, I love that. So you read fiction? I take it
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[charlotte_gambill]: Yes, I docause.
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[rebecca_george]: Okay.
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[charlotte_gambill]: They, because you know Church books and Jesus books last y do twenty four
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[charlotte_gambill]: seven, So the like are La. From them stopped working, and the only way
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[charlotte_gambill]: they can get me so worky is to read something that is nothing to do with
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[charlotte_gambill]: Jesus in the Bible.
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm the same way. I rarely read fiction, but I love to lay
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[rebecca_george]: on the beach and read fiction. That's like the only place that I feel like I
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[rebecca_george]: can totally just disengage from my work and and read fiction. So I love that
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[rebecca_george]: I love that your kids encourage you to do that too way to go for raising
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[rebecca_george]: some amazing readers. Even though
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[charlotte_gambill]: They love people. Stop as all time restaurants going. How did you get
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[charlotte_gambill]: your kids to read Like I know. I just love it
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[rebecca_george]: that's the best. That's the best. I love that. Okay personality question. If
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[rebecca_george]: you had a go to karaoke song, what would it be?
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[charlotte_gambill]: dancing. ▁queen.
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[rebecca_george]: Oh, that's the best
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[rebecca_george]: I
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[charlotte_gambill]: See,
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[rebecca_george]: love that. So much.
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[charlotte_gambill]: watch that yet. That one.
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[rebecca_george]: Oh, that's a good one. Nobody's ever said that one. I can't believe that. I
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[charlotte_gambill]: That's way. It's a guarantee to get you on the dance floor.
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[rebecca_george]: kind of forgot about that song
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[rebecca_george]: every single time every single time I love that so much. Okay. What is
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[rebecca_george]: something that you are Len in this season right now, Can be anything at all
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[rebecca_george]: that you want to tell people about.
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[charlotte_gambill]: Oh, well, on a really practical note, I am loving having a fall wardrobe.
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[charlotte_gambill]: I'm like. Whats a
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[rebecca_george]: Yes,
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[charlotte_gambill]: change of boots? Yes, I love a
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[rebecca_george]: scarves,
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[charlotte_gambill]: good Bo. Yes, a good Sp.
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[rebecca_george]: boots, scarves, sweaters. Yes,
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[charlotte_gambill]: Yes, I'm like Naap. So I'm all about the Fa wardrobe right now and I'm
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[charlotte_gambill]: actually, and this is a strange answer. but I'm actually loving right
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[charlotte_gambill]: now. change.
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[charlotte_gambill]: I am in a real season in my life of a large change going on. and though
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[rebecca_george]: reallym,
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[charlotte_gambill]: it's
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[charlotte_gambill]: wearing, and though it's exhausting, and though it's challenging, I am
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[charlotte_gambill]: loving what I know is producing. So we're in huge change, the family. My
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[charlotte_gambill]: daughter's leaving home next week to move into college, So huge change
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[charlotte_gambill]: for our family. I'm in huge change in my work life right now and job
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[charlotte_gambill]: situation, which is scary, but all at the same time, it's exciting and so
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[charlotte_gambill]: I'm surrounded by change right now, which normally I'm like. Ooh, it
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[charlotte_gambill]: freaks me out right now. I guess I'm just older and wiser and I realize
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[charlotte_gambill]: without any of these big changes you can't step into the next thing, so
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[charlotte_gambill]: I'm actually looking this season of change.
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[rebecca_george]: I love that that's so good. So good. Okay? who has been one of the most
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[rebecca_george]: influential people in your life? And why?
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[charlotte_gambill]: Oh gosh, there's more than one. Obviously, I could ilist off a long list,
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[charlotte_gambill]: but I think I would say, Um, one of the most influence me. My, are my
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[charlotte_gambill]: kids
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[charlotte_gambill]: because my kids make me want to be better
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah,
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[charlotte_gambill]: in every way.
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[charlotte_gambill]: And so it's not that they influence me in a, you know, my teaching or my
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[charlotte_gambill]: preaching or my work ethic, but they, they influence me as a human being
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[charlotte_gambill]: to be a better human being because they're following my lead. And so I
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[charlotte_gambill]: think that the greatest influence when I get in the morning, I'm like my
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[charlotte_gambill]: attitude needs be good, because I want my kids to see that our home needs
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[charlotte_gambill]: to be happy, Because that's what I want the environment to be in their
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[charlotte_gambill]: own, what I do with my life and how I treat people. I want the kids to go
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[charlotte_gambill]: way to go, mum, so I think they have this influence in my life. It is
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[charlotte_gambill]: actually quite a special thing that they're completely unaware of. And so
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[charlotte_gambill]: that's what makes it even more powerful. But I think yeah, it's my kids.
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[rebecca_george]: I love that so much. so good. I love people, say their kids usually for that
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[rebecca_george]: reason, which is so
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[charlotte_gambill]: Yeah,
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[rebecca_george]: special. I love that. Okay. So my last favorite question that I ask
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[rebecca_george]: everybody, kind of has to do with the direction Guy gave me for the podcast
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[rebecca_george]: and he kept bring. bringing me back to this Vers in Som thirty four. Its
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[rebecca_george]: first says those who look to him are radiant and their faces are never
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[rebecca_george]: covered in shame.
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[rebecca_george]: So the question I'm loving asking right now is what about Jesus makes you
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[rebecca_george]: radiant?
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[charlotte_gambill]: I think
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[charlotte_gambill]: when I think that he chose me
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[charlotte_gambill]: that that to me blows my mind. I'm like.
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah,
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[charlotte_gambill]: What? who? I mean, I'm the girl who was never chosen. Like, like you
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[charlotte_gambill]: know, Olympic teams, like
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[rebecca_george]: same, me, too,
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[charlotte_gambill]: no mean, like no one. like the like, I'm the one that's left at the end
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[charlotte_gambill]: and the like. Really, we have to have her. So you know I
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[rebecca_george]: Yp, me too.
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[charlotte_gambill]: to be chosen was already a deal. But to be chosen by God before I ever
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[charlotte_gambill]: chose him means that when I look at him I'm like there's nothing I have
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[charlotte_gambill]: to do to make you love me or
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[charlotte_gambill]: you. You won't love me any more if I've had a bad day or a great day. If
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[charlotte_gambill]: I do one more thing for you doesn't change anything like you have already
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[charlotte_gambill]: chosen me and you already chose to love me And and that will never
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[charlotte_gambill]: change, Which
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah,
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[charlotte_gambill]: gives you such security
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[charlotte_gambill]: in in why we do what we do. Because it's not be to get brownie points
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[charlotte_gambill]: from God is just because you just are so thankful he chose you, And so
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[charlotte_gambill]: now you just want to do what you can to honour him back. So I think that
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[charlotte_gambill]: really brings relief and radiance all at the same time,
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[rebecca_george]: that's so good. The thing that gets me about God all the time is the fact
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[rebecca_george]: that he doesn't change. Like when we look at everything else we know to be
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[rebecca_george]: true about him and then lay it up against the fact that he is immutable
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[rebecca_george]: right. Like if that wasn't true, then everything else would crumble. you
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[rebecca_george]: know,
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[charlotte_gambill]: right,
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[rebecca_george]: Like So that comforts me so much. I just walked out of a an extreme season
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[rebecca_george]: of change, and that was one of the things that I took such great comfort in
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[rebecca_george]: about God during that season was the fact that I could stand on everything I
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[rebecca_george]: know to be true about him is faithfulness and sovereignty. All of it because
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[rebecca_george]: he's imutable. I'll just I love that about him so much so that's beautiful.
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[rebecca_george]: I love that well, Charlotte, I'm so grateful for you. I'm so grateful for
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[rebecca_george]: this new message that you and Natalie are putting out into the world, dare
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[rebecca_george]: to be, and I can't wait for everybody to get their hands on it, so I just
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[rebecca_george]: want to say a huge thank you one more time.
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[charlotte_gambill]: You' are so welcome and when they get the hands on it they're not only
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[charlotte_gambill]: going to have great content. it's such a pretty book. it's
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[rebecca_george]: Uh, it's beautiful.
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[charlotte_gambill]: perfect. You know, when you can get a book that a gift book. it's like
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[rebecca_george]: Yes,
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[charlotte_gambill]: me. You find it so you could give it to a friend for a present and it'll
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[charlotte_gambill]: go on the coffee table with a candle on top and it's got gold on it and
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[charlotte_gambill]: its teal. And yet so we spend a lot of time. Probably more than we should
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[charlotte_gambill]: go. No watch, not the right shade of gold, So yes, so you're welcome.
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[charlotte_gambill]: It's also pretty.
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[rebecca_george]: it's beautiful and I'm such a sucker for gold foil.
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[charlotte_gambill]: See,
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[rebecca_george]: Such a sucker. it's so beautiful. I love it. I can't wait for everybody to
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[rebecca_george]: get their hands on it. Thank Charlotte. Thank you just so much. I'm so
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[rebecca_george]: grateful,
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[charlotte_gambill]: thank you.
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[rebecca_george]: okay?
