Episode 145. Living a Christ-Centered Life in a Me-Centered World with Chelsey DeMatteis
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[rebecca_george]: Chelsea. I am so excited to welcome you to the show. Thank you for being here.
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[chelseydematteis]: I'm so excited. It's so fun when you get to do this with friends. I love
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[rebecca_george]: I know I know I do too, and I'm just sitting here realizing like this is
your first time on the show, which feels really crazy, Because I've been on
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[rebecca_george]: your show. We've been friends for years and so I'm just really excited to
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[rebecca_george]: have you. There was a point where I was like I could have her. Now there's
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[rebecca_george]: so many conversations that we could have, but I could also just wait for her
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[rebecca_george]: book. and so we've waited for your book. and I am so beyond thrilled to talk
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[rebecca_george]: to you, because Che'll see I when I look at you, and what God has done
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[rebecca_george]: through you over the last few years with your podcast and just kind of your
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[rebecca_george]: core message of how he has led you to speak into the lives of women. It, I
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[rebecca_george]: mean, your heart, just like bleeds over the pages of this book, because it's
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[rebecca_george]: like your message, right like it is. This is very God and very Chelsea. And
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[rebecca_george]: so I'm just really excited to introduce my people to you and to this book.
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[rebecca_george]: So you have a devotional coming out called more of him, less of me living a
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[rebecca_george]: Christ centered life in a me centered world, And I want to hear, and I want
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[rebecca_george]: my people to hear kind of the back story of how how did God put this on your
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[rebecca_george]: heart.
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[chelseydematteis]: Okay, so I feel like I have a long winded version, so I'm going to try and
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[chelseydematteis]: keep it like short winded version, Because I first want to start out by
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[chelseydematteis]: saying I came to the Lord gave my life to Christ in my early twenties,
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[chelseydematteis]: and even that, we' obviously always um in process in process of
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[chelseydematteis]: sanctification, which will talk about. But I
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[chelseydematteis]: was very self centered and I thought about me all the time, and even as a
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[chelseydematteis]: new believer, I felt like my feet were like caught in between this tension
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[chelseydematteis]: of one foot for the Heavenlyes and then one foot getting
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[chelseydematteis]: so caught up and still caring so much about what the world thought about
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[chelseydematteis]: me
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: and how at the end of the day that still drove so many of my decisions And
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[chelseydematteis]: that's not what God commands of us. It's not what he
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm.
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[chelseydematteis]: calls us, too, and so
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[chelseydematteis]: really, for me, I saw that change when I became a mom, so I have an almost
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[chelseydematteis]: four year old and I actually think by the time this heirs camell be four,
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[chelseydematteis]: which is crazy.
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[rebecca_george]: how is Cam almost for that? Feellls? crazy to me.
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[chelseydematteis]: I don't. No. it is wild to me. I don't know how that happened. I am so
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[chelseydematteis]: grateful I get to stay home with him, but through motherhood through that,
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[chelseydematteis]: we actually have a little girl on the way shall be here in November and of
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[chelseydematteis]: November. But God used motherhood to
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[chelseydematteis]: really convict my heart over this, because I think I realized
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[chelseydematteis]: in becoming a mom,
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[chelseydematteis]: I have to have both my feet planted for Jesus and planted for a life
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[chelseydematteis]: that's truly living for more of him and less of me, Because my kids are
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[chelseydematteis]: going to see that and they're growing up in this world.
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[chelseydematteis]: So after I had him, it was about a year after. So it was around his first
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[chelseydematteis]: birthday.
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[chelseydematteis]: My dad had called me and actually asked me to go out, uh, for brunch with
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[chelseydematteis]: him, which was really weird. I mean, I am almost thirty, but he called me
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[chelseydematteis]: was like I really need to talk with you and I thought Am I in trouble?
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[chelseydematteis]: Like it't me adolescent years of Okay, Why is this so important
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah, yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: And he told me that he really missed hearing me talk about writing? I love
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[chelseydematteis]: to journal. I've helped out in women's Bible studies, women's ministry
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[chelseydematteis]: stuff, and he noticed that I just hadn't really talked about that any
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[chelseydematteis]: more. And he really wanted to challenge me and starting to write again and
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[chelseydematteis]: starting to do the thing that he knew God gifted me, in, which was really
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[chelseydematteis]: sweet to hear that from my dad. And I just think
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: what an awkom example of our heavenly Father too.
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[rebecca_george]: that's so awesome.
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[chelseydematteis]: So after that meeting um with my dad, I came home and I was like Okay. I
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[chelseydematteis]: promised him that I would be in prayer and I was like, I don't know what
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[chelseydematteis]: that looks like as a stay at home, mom as a new mom, and I was prayking to
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[chelseydematteis]: that And
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[chelseydematteis]: Lord, what would you want me to write about And
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[chelseydematteis]: I continue to have the words live with less on my heart,
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[chelseydematteis]: And I thought it was so funny 'cause I'm definitely. I mean. we're not
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[chelseydematteis]: like horders or anything, but were' not minimalists over here
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah. yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: and I live with less. Okay, you know, I'm not quite sure what that looks
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[chelseydematteis]: like and I was still praying through. How do I have the time to write? Do
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[chelseydematteis]: I do a blog? And so I started praying about talking about him. I was like
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[chelseydematteis]: I love to talk about the Lord and I thought well, there is podcasting. I
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[chelseydematteis]: don't know what I would be doing in that, and so just through praying
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[chelseydematteis]: through that and then really starting to dig into scripture, because I
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[chelseydematteis]: always say the Lord will not leave you into something that is not
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[chelseydematteis]: concreted in his word, we can always
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[rebecca_george]: hm.
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[chelseydematteis]: go back to his word and find. is this an alignment with the Lord or is it
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[chelseydematteis]: just an alignment with me,
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[rebecca_george]: yeah.
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[chelseydematteis]: and I came into Um, the Book of John, and in John three thirty, he must
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[chelseydematteis]: increase. I must decrease in just reading
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[chelseydematteis]: about
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[chelseydematteis]: that moment when John saw Jesus coming on to the scene into his earthly
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[chelseydematteis]: ministry and the Holy Spirit ascending upon him. I just knew
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[chelseydematteis]: the Lord wants to be the center of my life. He always has
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm.
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[chelseydematteis]: wanted to be the center of my life and I'm either going to walk in this or
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[chelseydematteis]: I'm not,
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[chelseydematteis]: and I felt confirmed in doing a podcast and so honestly through starting
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[chelseydematteis]: the podcast The Living With Less Podcast, God just totally burtht this
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[chelseydematteis]: devotional through it and it's so intertwined together. But that's the
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[chelseydematteis]: a very selfish, prideful girl that then gave her life to the Lord,
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[chelseydematteis]: and I'm just so grateful for my dad seeing something in me that he felt
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[chelseydematteis]: like he needed to call out because God used that in such a cool way.
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[rebecca_george]: yeah. Mm.
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, I love that so much and I it always means so much to me when like my
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[rebecca_george]: people recognize
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[rebecca_george]: something like that in my life and they
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[rebecca_george]: take the step to call that out or call me up in that. Um, I just think
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[rebecca_george]: that's that's so incredibly kind
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[chelseydematteis]: Mhm, Mhm,
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[rebecca_george]: of your dad and um, I just I love that story. So what year did you go to?
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[rebecca_george]: She speaks?
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[chelseydematteis]: First year was in twenty seventeen. I was actually pregnant with camp,
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[chelseydematteis]: which I think is so cool just the way God
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[rebecca_george]: That's so cool.
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[chelseydematteis]: stirs things and does things. And then I went back in twenty nineteen, and
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[chelseydematteis]: that was
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[rebecca_george]: Okay,
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[chelseydematteis]: when the podcast had been in swing for about six months, and that was
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[chelseydematteis]: where I actually had pitched to somebody for the first time ever doing a
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[chelseydematteis]: devotional, And the lady
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[rebecca_george]: uhhuh,
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[chelseydematteis]: loved the idea. It just wasn't quite there yet and she' like
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm,
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[chelseydematteis]: this is really great was
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[chelseydematteis]: Yes, Okay, Lord, we ond to something.
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[rebecca_george]: that's so cool. That's so cool. So we? What's funny about that is we just
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[rebecca_george]: missed each other both times. I went in twenty fifteen and I went in twenty
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[rebecca_george]: eighteen. So
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[chelseydematteis]: Oh, that's fun,
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[rebecca_george]: we've never been at the same time, But we have friends that we have both
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[rebecca_george]: met. Um from there. What's so funny about our friendship too, is we've never
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[rebecca_george]: met in person,
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[chelseydematteis]: which is crazy.
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[rebecca_george]: which is so nuts to me, So we need to make that happen. Rachel Adams and I
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[rebecca_george]: keep talking about like doing a meet up somewhere
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[chelseydematteis]: Yes,
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[rebecca_george]: in the like midst of all of our F. friends, Because what's so fun about this
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[rebecca_george]: work is it's and what's such a gift to me, And I want my people to hear this
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[rebecca_george]: in the season of life is like.
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[rebecca_george]: my friendships look a lot different than they used to. I' my pastor's wife.
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[rebecca_george]: Now it just looks different. It looks different in a small town where
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[rebecca_george]: everybody you know you're also their pastor's wife, and the friendships that
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[rebecca_george]: I've made in like this work means so much to me because they're like your
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[rebecca_george]: people that you can call and be like. Hey, I'm praying through having this
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[rebecca_george]: person on my show, or I'm praying through the thing that I'm riding. Like,
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[rebecca_george]: what do you think? Like? Those conversations just mean so much to me and so
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[rebecca_george]: a lot of those for me were birthed through She speaks, and a lot of my work
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[rebecca_george]: started in that space, so I just I love that event. Um, Gosh. I had one
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[rebecca_george]: other thing before we jump into theion. Oh, what was it? Um,
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[rebecca_george]: okay before we get into the thick of the devotion. I want you to walk
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[rebecca_george]: through how you touched on this, But how is the devotional Laido versus?
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[rebecca_george]: like how how it matches with the podcast. I want people to hear about that.
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[chelseydematteis]: so I say that they are like a married couple. They
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: compliment each other very very well. so while individually they are great
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[chelseydematteis]: when you bring them together, it's perfect.
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: So what I mean by that is it's a fifty two week devotional, So you have
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[chelseydematteis]: your devotion, and they' about a three minute read. I have had them all
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[chelseydematteis]: timed out because I want to know how long the longest one will be, and
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[chelseydematteis]: then from that, though I knew Okay,
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[chelseydematteis]: because I am so much about. We have to live out what we actually read in
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[chelseydematteis]: God's
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm.
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[chelseydematteis]: Word, and I think so often devotions that we read in the morning. Um, they
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[chelseydematteis]: set your heart in the right place. They put you in scripture, But there
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[chelseydematteis]: isn't necessarily something to go out and do
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: so that in each devotion there is essentially like a set thing to try and
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[chelseydematteis]: do that week to whether it be injurnaling, Whether it be something to
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[chelseydematteis]: tangibly go do out in the world, But also is a paired podcast episode that
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[chelseydematteis]: goes along with it that way. You're not just reading something. You're
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[chelseydematteis]: also listening to something,
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[chelseydematteis]: and I know we'll get into this too. But one of my prayers, especially
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[chelseydematteis]: because of just the climate of our world right now, especially here in our
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[chelseydematteis]: country.
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[chelseydematteis]: It feels really lonely sometimes and really isolating to be like. Am I the
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[chelseydematteis]: only one with a biblical world view? Am I really the only person in my
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[chelseydematteis]: family in my circle and my wherever, And my hope is that being able to
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm. yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: listen to a podcast episode every single week, you will know that I am
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[chelseydematteis]: walking this out
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm.
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[chelseydematteis]: right alongside you and have then and still will be, and that it's just
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[chelseydematteis]: really important. I think again to have something to actually do something
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[chelseydematteis]: to listen to. That
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm,
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[chelseydematteis]: just further
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[chelseydematteis]: leads us into his word and stirs up conviction.
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[chelseydematteis]: You know I'm all about conviction,
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[rebecca_george]: I do know you are.
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[rebecca_george]: I love that so much and I just I love your heart for that and
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[rebecca_george]: that women will be led into those types of conversations and not feel alone.
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[rebecca_george]: Because you're exactly right. It's the world is nuts and we more than ever
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[rebecca_george]: before like we need a place to run. I mean, first of all, God's word, but
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[rebecca_george]: also other believers to walk alongside us through this. And so I just really
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[rebecca_george]: love that you paired it together like that, so kind of as we jump into some
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[rebecca_george]: of the content from the book
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[rebecca_george]: man, One of the things that really stood out to me was just how
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[rebecca_george]: loudly culture is
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[chelseydematteis]: I'm almost in my third trimester and I have felt great, but now it's just
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[chelseydematteis]: to go. And I've had a sip before the Lord and I have said Lord. I am
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[chelseydematteis]: and honestly he has called me to go rest and I have taken a rest. and so
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[chelseydematteis]: oftentimes it's what is the best thing that God is desiring for me and
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[chelseydematteis]: taking the little things to him, Because there will be times though where
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: binge watch stuff like that
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[chelseydematteis]: me, and I think as we start praying going before him with the little
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so good, and God has even convicted me over the
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[chelseydematteis]: What?
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[rebecca_george]: during quarantine.
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[rebecca_george]: I feel like I had so much opportunity to encourage people that I just never
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[chelseydematteis]: Mm,
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[rebecca_george]: my world before
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[rebecca_george]: we go to the grocery store, Right and I start realizing like this same
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[rebecca_george]: person was checking me out of the check out line every time. Except like I
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[rebecca_george]: didn't know her name. I didn't know if she knew the Lord. I just knew she
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[rebecca_george]: was trying to help people find toilet paper and she probably hadn't had a
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[rebecca_george]: great day. and so I just began asking that God would make me more aware of
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[rebecca_george]: those moments and those opportunities to speak into people's lives. and he
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[rebecca_george]: will when he's so faithful to do that. But we,
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[rebecca_george]: it's It's like the despising of the ordinary that I think we do a lot of the
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[rebecca_george]: time when we just um, we neglect to see him at work in our lives, when like
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[rebecca_george]: he's always working in and around us. It's just like how aware we have that
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[rebecca_george]: and how in tune are we in terms of walking with the Holy Spirit to to be,
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[rebecca_george]: you know, faithful and obedient in those moments. And so I think that really
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[chelseydematteis]: Well, something else, Ig to. I just realized, Ive, for to add in, there is
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[chelseydematteis]: okay. We also need to know what does God desire? What
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: does he desire, ▁ultimately, Which is why we have to know his word. but
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[chelseydematteis]: ask yourself, Do I even know what God desires of me? And when you go to
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[chelseydematteis]: his word, you'll see God desires for us to be holy. as he is holy. He
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[chelseydematteis]: invites us and into holiness, read Hebrews, twelf. I love Hebrewstp, which
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[chelseydematteis]: I have spent so much time in these areas of scripture that people like to
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[chelseydematteis]: twist and pervert. because you'll also see, and Hebrews twelve. That's
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[chelseydematteis]: another area of scripture where people love to make a rabbra shishkba.
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[chelseydematteis]: They make it all about themselves and it's not
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: its literally, an invitation into discipline and into holiness. And so we
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[chelseydematteis]: have to. I guess, first start there of going. What does God desire of me?
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[chelseydematteis]: Okay, he
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: desires me to be holy. Well, I am pretty wretched sometimes. so Lord, what
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[chelseydematteis]: does that look like? Where are these moments that I need to turn to you,
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[chelseydematteis]: And so do that Take the time also to just study
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[chelseydematteis]: what is holiness? What does that
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm,
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[chelseydematteis]: look like? We serve a Holy God And when we look at him that way,
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[chelseydematteis]: that just automatically puts my heart in like a very reverent place of
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[chelseydematteis]: going. You are wholly imperfect,
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[chelseydematteis]: and I am what you look at me as blameless because of Jesus going to the
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[chelseydematteis]: cross, But I still have to be sanctified. I still have to walk through
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[chelseydematteis]: conviction, and so, just knowing I serve a holy God who invites me into
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[chelseydematteis]: that. And what does that look like every day?
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, yeah, that's so good, So good. So, before we go to, Um,
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[rebecca_george]: you know, kind of our bonus interview, which I'm really excited about this
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[rebecca_george]: is going to be fun. I just want to hear.
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[rebecca_george]: I want to hear you talk about this. You talk about looking to the cross and
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[rebecca_george]: not culture. We've talked about that su today already, But what is your
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[rebecca_george]: prayer? as readers get this resource in their hands and they begin to make
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[rebecca_george]: this shift. What are you hoping for?
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[chelseydematteis]: My deepest prayer is that people will see this as a daily choice, daily
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah?
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[chelseydematteis]: like moment by a moment to choose the cross over culture. And I say that
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[chelseydematteis]: because so often,
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[chelseydematteis]: because are, I feel like our culture is busier than it's ever been. It's
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[rebecca_george]: Mhm,
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[chelseydematteis]: filled with honestly, and I do this too. I'm not just preaching to
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[chelseydematteis]: everybody else, but it gets filled with some things that are so mindless
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[chelseydematteis]: and really it's okay, Lord. what does it look like to choose the cross
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[chelseydematteis]: over culture, and not just on Sunday, not just on Bible study night, not
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[chelseydematteis]: just when I'm listening to the podcaster just reading the devotional. I
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[chelseydematteis]: want this to turn into so badly like the daily choice that somebody wakes
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[chelseydematteis]: up every single day and says Okay, Here we go. Lord, like
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: one of my mentors used to say to me every single morning before her feet
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[chelseydematteis]: hit the floor. She probably still says it. to this day she would say
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[chelseydematteis]: Jesus, I will what you want to day. and then her feet hit the floor and I
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[chelseydematteis]: love that and I, That is just my desire. Is that
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[chelseydematteis]: as women
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[chelseydematteis]: the podcast that they will number one again, feel like there's someone
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[chelseydematteis]: walking alongside them that is doing this very thing, but also
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[chelseydematteis]: that they know that there are women all over doing the same thing that
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[chelseydematteis]: there are women waking up every single day going. I choose the cross to
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[chelseydematteis]: day and I'm not going to take my eyes off of it, and if my eyes do start
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[chelseydematteis]: to drift, I am turning back. I am going to turn back to the Lord and it
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[chelseydematteis]: makes me just well up with tears, because I think I just know what God has
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[chelseydematteis]: done
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[chelseydematteis]: and my life over. convicting me in all of these areas
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[chelseydematteis]: of
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[chelseydematteis]: the ways. I was not making him the center of my life and seeing now what
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[chelseydematteis]: he's done. No, I don't get it perfect. I certainly don't get it perfect,
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[chelseydematteis]: but I can see a complete difference from
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[chelseydematteis]: twenty eighteen to now.
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that so much. I just can't wait for it to
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[rebecca_george]: come out. It's going to be out in the world by the time people listen to
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[rebecca_george]: this, which is so fun. So before we go, I want you to tell people where can
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[rebecca_george]: they go, Grabbit, and where can they connect with you.
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[chelseydematteis]: Okay, so you can connect with me. I am only on Instagram. That's my only
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[chelseydematteis]: form of social media that's at living with less podcast. My website is
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[chelseydematteis]: Chelsea Demata Dot com, and you'll find Rebecca's stuff on there. She's
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[chelseydematteis]: written for my blogs several
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[rebecca_george]: I know
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[chelseydematteis]: times over there,
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[chelseydematteis]: And yes, so when the book comes out, it will be on Amazon and Barnes and
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[chelseydematteis]: Noble Dot Com. Those are the two main places, and then on Christian books
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[chelseydematteis]: will be that. Those are the three main places where I know that you'll be
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[chelseydematteis]: able to find it, and also on my website it will be there too, so you can
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[chelseydematteis]: find that there. But I would love for you to come over to Inham. I love
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[chelseydematteis]: doing instigram stories and being over there and again by the time this
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[chelseydematteis]: airs Camel before, Be about having another baby, so you'll probably see
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[chelseydematteis]: lots of baby stuff too.
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[rebecca_george]: I can't wait. I can't wait for you to just for it to turn into like baby
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[rebecca_george]: girl World For a while, I just can't wait to see pictures of her. I can't
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[rebecca_george]: wait. It's going to be so fun. Well, I am so grateful for you. I'm so
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[rebecca_george]: grateful for your obedience to write this message and I can't wait for all
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[rebecca_george]: our people to get their hands on it. So thank you for being my guest today.
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[chelseydematteis]: thank you.
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[rebecca_george]: Okay, I'll do a quick pause. Um, and we can do our little bonus questions.
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[chelseydematteis]: praise.
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[rebecca_george]: You didn't. That's awesome. I'm so glad you're feeling better.
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[rebecca_george]: okay,
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[rebecca_george]: Chelsea. I'm so happy to be with you to day. Thank you for joining me
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[chelseydematteis]: Yes, I'm so happy, too.
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[rebecca_george]: Most is so fun. We just had the best conversation about your new devotional.
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[rebecca_george]: More of him, less of me living a cry centered life in a me centered world,
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[rebecca_george]: and I'm so excited for our people to get their hands on the book. but I am
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[rebecca_george]: also excited to you do a little bonus round with you. So are you ready?
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[chelseydematteis]: I'm so ready,
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[rebecca_george]: Okay? What is one of the best pieces of advice that you've ever been given?
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[chelseydematteis]: So this came from my dad. It's a common theme in my life. My dad speaks a
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[chelseydematteis]: lot of truth
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[rebecca_george]: I love that
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[chelseydematteis]: that he has always told me since I was young, and especially into
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[chelseydematteis]: adulthood has reminded me of. Let them tell you. No, so don't go into
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[chelseydematteis]: something Expecting somebody else is going to tell me. now. I'm not going
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[chelseydematteis]: to reach out to. It's going to be know. anyway. he has always said, Let
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[chelseydematteis]: them tell you know.
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[rebecca_george]: that's good. That's really good.
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah, Yeah, because we can get so discouraged even before we like. Make an
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[rebecca_george]: ask or I don't know. I like that. that's a good one. Okay, what is one of
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[rebecca_george]: the best books that you've read lately that you want people to know? But
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[chelseydematteis]: Okay, so I laughed as I was writing this because I'm not a huge reader. So
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: at first, like does the Bible count Because I just finished reading Wol in
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[chelseydematteis]: Amos and they were so good, so I highly recommend reading those if you
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[chelseydematteis]: would like to read about God's judgment and provision, and promise those
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[chelseydematteis]: are so good.
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[rebecca_george]: yes,
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[chelseydematteis]: But as I finished thinking of that that I just got done reading. I
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[chelseydematteis]: actually read Live in Love by Lauren Atkins
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: was so good again. I'm not a huge reader and I read it in less than twenty
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[chelseydematteis]: four hours. I could not put it down.
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[rebecca_george]: that's awesome.
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[chelseydematteis]: It was so good and it really encouraged me. It is not a parenting book by
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[chelseydematteis]: any
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: means at all, but it really encouraged me. hearing how her parents raised
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[chelseydematteis]: I was like I told my husband I said Cory. I need you to read some of these
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, yeah.
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[chelseydematteis]: chaptersmazing. I was like. this is awesome for how we should raise our
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[rebecca_george]: I love that they're so sweet. I just I think they're the sweetest family.
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[chelseydematteis]: Mhm,
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[rebecca_george]: So that's a good one. Okay if you had this personality, If you had to go to
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[rebecca_george]: karaoke song, what would it be? People panic over this question.
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[chelseydematteis]: Oh, my word. Okay, Well, No, I laughed because I was like. I don't know if
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[chelseydematteis]: this is
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[chelseydematteis]: title of the song. Oh, my word, but it's all I could think of because I
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[chelseydematteis]: actually sang this in karaoke with
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[rebecca_george]: I'm so excited.
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[chelseydematteis]: my best friend in high school, but it's is it one of Be by Spice Girls
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[chelseydematteis]: That, if you,
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[rebecca_george]: Yes, it is.
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[chelseydematteis]: yeah,
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[rebecca_george]: Yes, it is one of theceic girls. That's such a good one. Nobody has said
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[rebecca_george]: that yet.
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[chelseydematteis]: that would be my karaoke song. I was like Lord, I'm sorry for that is what
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[chelseydematteis]: came to
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[rebecca_george]: I, I could not love that more. That's a really good one. Okay, what is
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[rebecca_george]: something? This could be anything at all that you are just really loving in
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[rebecca_george]: this season that you want people to know about.
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[chelseydematteis]: Okay, guys, Jamaican me, crazy coffee, it is. Silver Bridge is the brand.
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[chelseydematteis]: I'll be sure to send you all the info and where people can
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[rebecca_george]: Okay, Okay,
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[chelseydematteis]: get coe. It's a local coffee here in Columbus and it is
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[chelseydematteis]: divine. It is the best coffee. I, I just can't say enough about it. and
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[chelseydematteis]: the reason I had to put this down is okay again. Like very pregnant. At
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[chelseydematteis]: this point, probably six weeks ago, I went to bed one night, and and knew
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[chelseydematteis]: I could like taste this coffee in my mouth, and I was like, first thing in
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[chelseydematteis]: the morning, I have to get up and go get a bag of it. And so I literally
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[chelseydematteis]: got came in the car, drove to the grocery store like seven o'clock in the
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[chelseydematteis]: morning to buy bag those coffee. It's it is the best.
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[rebecca_george]: that's
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[rebecca_george]: awesome. We always love good coffee recommendations. We have one coffee shop
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[chelseydematteis]: It will not disappoint
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[rebecca_george]: in our little town, so I really miss going to coffee shops where I used to
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[rebecca_george]: live in Tennessee. There's a coffee roaster up there that we always get like
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[rebecca_george]: five bags
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[rebecca_george]: from every time I visit, So yeah, it's the best. Okay, who has been one of
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[chelseydematteis]: Hm. Yes,
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[rebecca_george]: the most influential people in your life? And why is it your
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[rebecca_george]: dad?
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[chelseydematteis]: God,
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[chelseydematteis]: you know I was gonna put my dad, but
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[rebecca_george]: I know
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[chelseydematteis]: as odd as it sounds where I'm at where I'm at right now. in this season of
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[chelseydematteis]: my life, I honestly would say my husband, which really
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[rebecca_george]: that's awesome.
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[chelseydematteis]: surprises me. But as soon as was like praying about it, I thought you know
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[chelseydematteis]: what Lord like, we have grown just so much closer over the last like two
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[chelseydematteis]: years, and God just done such a work in our hearts, and
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[chelseydematteis]: as I was thinking about this and again, just like praying through. Who
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[chelseydematteis]: would this person be? I really truly, just feel Cory has
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[chelseydematteis]: Corey, Because of the Lord has stretched me and challenged me, and
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: honestly stood alongside me through things. especially as of recent in
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[chelseydematteis]: this past year that I'm just so darn grateful for him so great.
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[rebecca_george]: so
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[rebecca_george]: I love that that's awesome. Okay. We've talked radiance a little bit, So
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[rebecca_george]: you're going to get where I'm coming from with this question. So
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[chelseydematteis]: Yeah,
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[rebecca_george]: kind of pointing us back to some thirty four five. Those who look to him are
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[rebecca_george]: radiant. their faces are never covered with shame. One of my favorite
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[rebecca_george]: questions to ask our guests right now is what about Jesus makes you radiant?
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[chelseydematteis]: okay, I love this question. By the way, and for me, uh, truly, it's having
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[chelseydematteis]: a secure hope in something
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[rebecca_george]: Yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: like a secure hope in Christ, and
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[chelseydematteis]: like a secure hope in Christ, and
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[chelseydematteis]: I see that as again, because of just my story and my background and
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[chelseydematteis]: rebellion that I lived in for many many years, and not having security in
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[chelseydematteis]: anything right, like Yes, in my family, but like eternal security.
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[chelseydematteis]: And I, just when I was thinking of that and again praying about that, and
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[chelseydematteis]: what that, what has that looked like in my life, it's a secured hope in
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[chelseydematteis]: him and that
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[chelseydematteis]: this life
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[chelseydematteis]: is
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[chelseydematteis]: such a gift. And so it makes fighting for him like fighting for our faith
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[chelseydematteis]: and fighting for truth.
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[chelseydematteis]: So
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[chelseydematteis]: gosh, I hate to even say worth itcause. It doesn't even encompass what I
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[chelseydematteis]: would like to say. I don't even have the words for it,
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[rebecca_george]: yeah,
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[chelseydematteis]: but to have true hope and something like you, You can tell when somebody's
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[chelseydematteis]: walking with the Lord, you see hope, you see light, and like you said, he
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[chelseydematteis]: makes us radiant And I just think that is hope. Oh my word,
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[rebecca_george]: yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[rebecca_george]: I love that so much so good. Okay, well, this has been so much fun. I am so
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[rebecca_george]: grateful to have you. I'm so excited about your new book. Say the name of it
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[rebecca_george]: Well more time. it's called more of him, less of me living a chrys in her
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[rebecca_george]: life in a centered world. I am so proud of you. This feels like such a long
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[rebecca_george]: time coming. this conversation and I can't wait for people to get their
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[rebecca_george]: hands on the books. Said, thank you again for being with me today.
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[chelseydematteis]: thank you,
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[rebecca_george]: okay,
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[rebecca_george]: um, let me
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[rebecca_george]: again. It's the second time I've done this.
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[chelseydematteis]: Oh sho.
